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ENTERTAINMENT SECTION => Offtopic => Topic started by: Dave on June 07, 2014, 01:16:55 pm



Title: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Dave on June 07, 2014, 01:16:55 pm
Is this company a continuation of, or does the company not exist in the story anymore? For example, if Scott Carr appeared would fans give a **** or he'd just be a random new guy?


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Brad on June 07, 2014, 01:34:28 pm
Continuation. However if a character comes back they cant just jump into the title scene kinda thing.


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Spider on June 07, 2014, 02:22:39 pm
When Spider originally came back before the reset i had no intention of jumpibg i to the title picture i wqs thrust there. Im happy now i can start over


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Spider on June 07, 2014, 02:25:58 pm
When Spider originally came back before the reset i had no intention of jumpibg i to the title picture i wqs thrust there. Im happy now i can start over


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Spider on June 07, 2014, 02:36:51 pm
When Spider originally came back before the reset i had no intention of jumpibg i to the title picture i wqs thrust there. Im happy now i can start over


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Dave on June 07, 2014, 03:06:55 pm
Yeah I have no intention of bringing an old character back, their stories are done. It's all about the next gen now.


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: The Wretched Nobody on June 07, 2014, 06:52:23 pm
That's the general vibe and it has been working for most anyone trying it.  Plus it really opens doors for new handlers.  Still WWG enjoys being a history rich federation, a heavily nostalgic situation was taken out of play.

That being said... respect is given where it's due - for instance Carr has made appearances and actually did the intro to the "new" WWG, welcoming and wishing well all the new competitors.  An idea Brad and I worked out with the hope it showed the extent of WWG Legend's star status - Essentially IF he made a come back... he's still Carr.  He is still a "somebody" to the fed... but if I as a handler don't earn his way to a title shot then he doesn't get pushed JUST because he's Carr.  Nevertheless to his benefit he does boast a substantial history... but that's become a writing device.  My job handling him is slightly easier because there is no need to build his recognition... character development is no longer required.  It is assumed the WWG Reality is well aware of him... he can interact with the audience in a way no new star can, right?  Same way as if Dante came back... the crowd response for a guy like him is always going to be far more fervid than it would be for someone who debuted a month ago.

Now... other benefits are for WWG... we past handlers - even rocking new characters - can always bust out that Ace in the whole for  big story lines, grudge matches and what we have now "The Legends Endorsement Program" - old Thad Rains is about as on the money with that as it gets, in terms of his new character. 

It's a large scale angle specifically for us past members.  Your old character can come back in support of / managing / mentoring a new character - basically lending their name or their branding to the new comers be it your own new character or another new handler's character.







Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Brad on June 07, 2014, 07:08:11 pm
its actually worked pretty well IMO


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Dave on June 07, 2014, 09:19:59 pm
That's good to hear. I like to see that many opted for new characters rather than continuing their previous ones. I think you'll like my new guy. A bit of the old, with a bit of the new, and I've already placed a serious handicap on him and how far he'll go, so should be fun to develop into a legend for the new age.


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: The Wretched Nobody on June 08, 2014, 01:33:46 pm
I look forward to him to be honest Dave.  I love the Sig already actually lol.  The WWG.com teaser was a cool twist too.

It has been neat to have so many restarting with new guys because it has been enthrawling to see styles change while substance our handlers excel at remains. 

Like, Demonico was a traditional wrestler who had no beef flying high - whereas Miseria is far more lucha style... But he too has that gritty old school style.  And... as an efed fan,  for my money - he kicks the crap out of the Demonico I knew.  I make a point to try and read everyone's promo but I have saved and studied some of what Steve's done with Miseria and I even pointed his way to some newer handlers looking for pointers on launching their character.  Miseria shows a sincere evolution of our handlers where quality far and exceeds quantity of.fictional titles.  What, on paper seems like a one dimensional ham & egg gimmick character has been absolutely addictive to read.

Even with me... We all know I like my wrestler big and gnarly, right?  Well I still do... but The Wretched Nobody is incredibly far removed from what Carr was.  Carr was well trained, Carr was confident, Carr could stand alone or compliment any group as heavy fire power.  The Wretched Nobody is barely human... and he is not the charismatic crowd.controlling man Carr was.  The Wretchdd Nobody does not even speak for himself well or at all often lol.... on top of that he too has limitations even though it is a useful character device - it potentiaally and in practice has been a hold up for him that he has C.I.P.  (Congenital Insensitivity to Pain.) it makes a monster a horrible nightmare!  LoL. 

However going deeper... his will and drive to please Grace Brutal are phenomenal... break his hand and he'll keep hitting you with it anyways, scary right?  But... his unbalanced psyche and barely there ties to being at all humane still reside in a human body - so even if he doesn't react to that broken hand like a normal person... it's still broken.  Basically I wanted to stay in the skirted realm of reality - while still sort of making him as near to a monsterous nightmare as possible.  Carr was flawed in points of his personality and inargueably human - however at his core he was a good and moral man.  The Wretched Nobody... he is a perfect disaster but he is a disaster none the less - and to call him a 'man' sincerely refers to the gender of his mortal coil.  Carr felt deeply for things... The Wretched Nobody feels only for Grace.

In some senses I traded off and tried news strengths and weaknesses... and it has garnered me a lot of positive feedback.  And... ya know... maybe one day Carr will make a return, and at that point people may be glad to see him because they won't be so saturated in the crap he talks lol.



Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Dave on June 08, 2014, 02:19:27 pm
Yeah, well, I don't want to give too much away yet, there's a couple of potentially surprising revelations to come. But new character is going to be all about the evolution - I'm starting him green, very very VERY green, and a big part of the development will be how becoming a fighter changes him fundamentally. Still a couple of directions I haven't ultimately decided on, but first month or so is pretty well worked out as far as development goes.

The sig is just something I ripped off the internet, I was going to work on one myself but I couldn't find the time or dedication to relearn photoshop.


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: The Wretched Nobody on June 08, 2014, 03:26:05 pm
Well besides the sig... If you have any details or particular ideas... Even if you're seeing gaps (I know you love to rock a good storyline that lasts...) if you need or you want to chuck some concepts around I would be glad to help.


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Doug on August 21, 2014, 03:20:09 pm
Is Xavier Goings still died


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Dave on August 21, 2014, 03:24:14 pm
I'd suppose you. Maybe you could just bring back his long lost twin brother, Javier Goings.


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: The Wretched Nobody on August 21, 2014, 03:32:34 pm
Or a Zombie!  EXavier Goings.... Xavier Gonns? lol


Title: Re: What's the canonicity of the original WWG?
Post by: Doug on August 21, 2014, 03:42:32 pm
Lol I like EXavier.