Shockwave Results Discussion & Carnage Card Discussion

[Brad]

Discuss the results here, sorry for lateness. Also feel free to talk about the current carnage card here also.

Thanks to Manny for his help, and to the people who submitted promo's, you know who you are

And if you'd like fill out below, all or some, whatevers. Haha.
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Best Written match -
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Rating - /10
Most Shocking Moment -
Rants/Suggestion/ Improvements -
Comment -

[Steven]

Fav Match - Going to have to go with the main event here. Yeah, I was involved in it, but it played out just how I imagined in my head. Manny pulled off a greatly written match and I can't thank him enough. This was truly a historic match for us to look back on some day.

Fav Promo - Licious hand-cuffs himself to Cutter. HAH! SCREW YOU RED!

Rating - 10/10 - Matches were fantastic and just worked out so nicely. Show definitely picked up towards the end just like any PPV would.

Most Shocking Moment - Slip showing up at the end of the show.

Rants/Suggestion/ Improvements - All right, I don't want to be a whiner here or anything, and I love Slip, but what happened to the complete reset? His promo did nothing but refer to his past here and his history. He's coming in as the former WWG legend and not reset like the others. It's just not consistent... then the fact that he showed up at the end irked me. We've had many guys working hard since this place opened that deserve big feuds but Slip is inserted instantly into a big storyline. Kinda disappointed.

Comment - Really proud to be the first World Champion of the reset! Hoping for a good reign and hopefully I'll do you guys proud. Jeremiah is a great opponent and he has a great future ahead of him. Also looking forward to the battle with Scott or Marcus coming up!

And to Alex, our match is going to be great at Carnage! Looking forward to it pal.

[MannyVrakas]

Thanks man. Major props to Brad who pretty much wrote the show on his own outside the main event. I totally could have done more and wish I dedicated more time to help. We gotta get a concrete writing staff.
It's a valid complaint, I think a lot of people coming back don't really understand the reboot concept. We'll try to improve on communication from this point.

[Slipshod]

Ok heres the thing, I only heard that the reboot concept was only an option. I was completely under the impression that this fed would NOT ignore its history and thats why I decided to come back as Slipshod. I was not aware that doing so would require completely rebooting the character because if that was the case I would have come back as someone else.

[Spider]

I'm of the same mindset. A reboot to start over because in the end we kinda just crashed and burned but I thhink ignoring the feds history is straight ludacrous. The history is what's. Made this place what it is today. The spencer clark era, the spider and L era. The Scott Carr and J rich era. Can't just sweep those under the rug and pretend it didn't happen. That's a straight WWE movement. Cause straight goods if/when I come back I'm still Spider. The one the only the genuine mccoy.

[MannyVrakas]

Nah, it's more like what WCW did in the early 2000s. I mean I guess it could be explained that WWG went out o business and this is it coming back. That way you guys can keep character consistency but restart storylines.

[Slipshod]

Exactly my point, we cant just ignore the historyvand if thats the case why is it so bad that my character mentions his past? Its not like its going to always be a factor, it just explains where and why hes been gone. And as for automatically being inserted in a main storyline goes, its just slipshod coming back challenging a random new guy and that guy happened to be the guy that lost in the main event at Shockwave. Its not like Slipshod is the next guy to challenge for the title so I am not sure what the issue is. Mentioning history is not inconsistent but instead a neccesity.

[Slipshod]

Btw if my comments are full of typos its because ive had a few drinks 

[The Wretched Nobody]

It's not ignored... it's just now considered in the past. No more B.S. Bootista Moves.  Great if you come back Spider, Slipshod or Jesus Christ himself.  Everybody starts at square one and good luck to them.  Slipshod did what I think is right... he's known by the fans, he's loves by the fans.  Being a past handler he is acknowledge by the fans appropriately.  He's not buried because of it.  Actually I liked the promo for his return.  I think he hit on some key points that worked to prove that WWG's encouraging it's handlers both past and present to change the landscape around here - is something positive.  Times change, and although respecting where this fed has been is important... we all always need to remember to make room for new talent.

At one point I was the brand new guy here... now, I think it's fair to say I'd be a lot easier off if I used Carr instead of Wretched Nobody, right?  5x World Champ vs Unheard of Character - those scales don't take long to tip, eh? lol.  Still, while having some past characters is entirely welcome the idea was that the course of WWG going forward is and should be the goal of us all.  Spider is a somebody in WWG... but what's that worth when WWG ran stale and shut down?

No one is saying we should ignore the past... but at this point - Slipshod was a key note player in his time, so was Dragon Demonico, Spider, Clark, Carr, Dante, L and others... but that was then and this is now.  Bring whatever character to the game you like... they're all welcome old and new.  Though what you've done ha no bearing on what you'll have a chance to do.

[Spider]

I hear that. But still we ran stale not because of who was there but because of who wasn't that's always been the issue. We had things going on weekly feedback P10, people doing what they could to build story lines. Trying to make movements to make the site better, but the one thing we've lacked is the one thing WWG has lacked for years. A steady 20 man roster with a consistent 15 handlers. We can 100 relaunches but at the end of the day its the roster/ roster power that keeps a fed going. Had little to nothing to do with who was here cause who was here were trying some less than others. No quams admitting I was on the latter side ofthat equation. Had most to do what it always has to do when feds shut down 'lack oof enough consistent handlers.' WWG has always had great potential to be somethin great and I still thinking the golden era was when spence was the first 3x champ in WWG history. I would love wWG to get back to that level. And I think having a few guys from the past is a good thing as well. Cause it can fully be a passing of the torch type of deal.

[Brad]

Basically the idea of the restart is we still aknowlegde the past, its just these people cant be coming in challanging for the title straight away, they gotta rp like the bottem. Slipshod didn't come back and challange for the championship. Carr opened the first show, the history can still be talked about, aknowledge it's just not getting you into the championship because your a past player in the WWG.

[Steven]

I should've brought Demonico back and had all my promos about my past then.  Sorry if people took offense to my opinion, but it's just what I believe. Using past as the base your character just kind of seems like taking a short cut.

It's clear though that a feud/something with Jeremiah is coming for Slip, which is quite the big storyline to start with in my opinion. Anyway people, why don't we stop freaking about one guy's opinion which means squat and actually give feedback on  the show?

[Slipshod]

Quite right   

[Nick Sadistic]

Loved the ppv...even tho I lost the match. 10/10! I liked how u written my dude in and killed that match. I'm going to go back to my mask.. I'll explain everything better in my rp. Remember my guy is bipolar kind of like abyss. Sadistic is coming

[Jeremiah Christianson]

As the guy who is going to enter into this feud/story with Slipshod, I'm pretty pumped! Figure I'm about to get tested.